The 1885 Home Nations Championship was the third series of the rugby union
Home Nations Championship. It was contested by
England
England is a country that is part of the United Kingdom. It shares land borders with Wales to its west and Scotland to its north. The Irish Sea lies northwest and the Celtic Sea to the southwest. It is separated from continental Europe b ...
,
Ireland
Ireland ( ; ga, Éire ; Ulster Scots dialect, Ulster-Scots: ) is an island in the Atlantic Ocean, North Atlantic Ocean, in Northwestern Europe, north-western Europe. It is separated from Great Britain to its east by the North Channel (Grea ...
,
Scotland
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, and
Wales
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, but the tournament was not completed.
The 1885 Championship was notable for the disputes occurring between the Home Nation Unions which prevented a full tournament to be completed. England and Scotland refused to face each other due to the refereeing disagreement from their 1884 encounter, and Wales and Ireland also failed to meet due to union disputes.
[Godwin (1984), pg 9.] The 1885 Championship also experienced a rare replay, when the Ireland versus Scotland game at Ormeau was abandoned after bad weather stopped play. The replay was played in Scotland.
Table
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The matches
Wales vs. England
Wales: Arthur Gould ( Newport), Frank Hancock (Cardiff
Cardiff (; cy, Caerdydd ) is the capital and largest city of Wales. It forms a principal area, officially known as the City and County of Cardiff ( cy, Dinas a Sir Caerdydd, links=no), and the city is the eleventh-largest in the United Kingd ...
), Martyn Jordan
Martyn Jordan (7 March 1865 – 14 July 1902) was an English-born international rugby union player who played club rugby for London Welsh and Newport and international rugby for Wales. Jordan played in three games for Wales scoring two tries, ...
( Newport), Charles Taylor ( Ruabon), Charlie Newman ( Newport) capt., William Gwynn
William Gwynn (1856 - 1 April 1897) was a Welsh international rugby union forward who played club rugby for Swansea and would later become secretary of the Welsh Rugby Union. Gwynn was an all-round sportsman and as well as his success on the rug ...
(Swansea
Swansea (; cy, Abertawe ) is a coastal city and the second-largest city of Wales. It forms a principal area, officially known as the City and County of Swansea ( cy, links=no, Dinas a Sir Abertawe).
The city is the twenty-fifth largest in ...
), Ernest Rowland (Lampeter
Lampeter (; cy, Llanbedr Pont Steffan (formal); ''Llambed'' (colloquial)) is a town, community and electoral ward in Ceredigion, Wales, at the confluence of the Afon Dulas with the River Teifi. It is the third largest urban area in Ceredigion, ...
), John Sidney Smith (Cardiff
Cardiff (; cy, Caerdydd ) is the capital and largest city of Wales. It forms a principal area, officially known as the City and County of Cardiff ( cy, Dinas a Sir Caerdydd, links=no), and the city is the eleventh-largest in the United Kingd ...
), Evan Richards
Evan Sloane Richards (23 January 1862 – 19 April 1931) was a Welsh international rugby union forward who played club rugby for Swansea, captaining the club through three seasons during the 1880s. Richards' father was Member of Parliament for ...
(Swansea
Swansea (; cy, Abertawe ) is a coastal city and the second-largest city of Wales. It forms a principal area, officially known as the City and County of Swansea ( cy, links=no, Dinas a Sir Abertawe).
The city is the twenty-fifth largest in ...
), Tom Clapp
Tom Clapp (25 October 1858 – 15 October 1933) was an English-born international rugby union forward who played club rugby for Newport and Nantyglo RFC. He won 14 caps for Wales and captained the team on three occasions. Clapp was the first ...
( Newport), Bob Gould ( Newport), Horace Lyne
Horace Sampson Lyne MBE (31 December 1860 – 1 May 1949) was a Welsh international rugby union forward who played club rugby for Newport Rugby Football Club. He won five caps for Wales. After retiring from play, he became the longest serving pr ...
( Newport), Thomas Baker Jones ( Newport), Samuel Goldsworthy (Swansea
Swansea (; cy, Abertawe ) is a coastal city and the second-largest city of Wales. It forms a principal area, officially known as the City and County of Swansea ( cy, links=no, Dinas a Sir Abertawe).
The city is the twenty-fifth largest in ...
), Lewis Thomas
Lewis Thomas (November 25, 1913 – December 3, 1993) was an American physician, poet, etymologist, essayist, administrator, educator, policy advisor, and researcher.
Thomas was born in Flushing, New York and attended Princeton University ...
(Cardiff
Cardiff (; cy, Caerdydd ) is the capital and largest city of Wales. It forms a principal area, officially known as the City and County of Cardiff ( cy, Dinas a Sir Caerdydd, links=no), and the city is the eleventh-largest in the United Kingd ...
)
England: HB Tristram (Oxford University
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), CG Wade (Oxford University
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), Andrew Stoddart
Andrew Ernest Stoddart (11 March 1863 – 4 April 1915) was an English sportsman who played international cricket for England, and rugby union for England and the British Isles. He was a Wisden Cricketer of the Year in 1893.
He has the unique ...
(Blackheath Blackheath may refer to:
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** Blackheath railway station
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*Blackheath, Surrey, England
** Hundred of Blackh ...
), JJ Hawcridge (Bradford
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), A Rotherham (Oxford University
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), JH Payne ( Broughton), Frank Moss
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Frank Moss was born in Holladay ...
( Broughton), G Harrison ( Hull), AT Kemble (Liverpool
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), RS Kindersley (Oxford University
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), HJ Ryalls ( New Brighton), ED Court (Blackheath Blackheath may refer to:
Places England
*Blackheath, London, England
** Blackheath railway station
**Hundred of Blackheath, Kent, an ancient hundred in the north west of the county of Kent, England
*Blackheath, Surrey, England
** Hundred of Blackh ...
), RSF Henderson (Blackheath Blackheath may refer to:
Places England
*Blackheath, London, England
** Blackheath railway station
**Hundred of Blackheath, Kent, an ancient hundred in the north west of the county of Kent, England
*Blackheath, Surrey, England
** Hundred of Blackh ...
), A Teggin ( Broughton), ET Gurdon (Richmond
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) capt.
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Scotland vs. Wales
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Scotland Pat Harrower, Bill Maclagan capt., Alexander Stephen, Gardy Maitland, Bunny Wauchope, Augustus Grant-Asher, Tom Ainslie, George Robb, John Jamieson
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, Robert Maitland, William Peterkin, Charlie Reid, Charles Berry, John Tod, Gordon Mitchell
Wales: Arthur Gould, Frank Hancock, Martyn Jordan
Martyn Jordan (7 March 1865 – 14 July 1902) was an English-born international rugby union player who played club rugby for London Welsh and Newport and international rugby for Wales. Jordan played in three games for Wales scoring two tries, ...
, Charles Taylor, Charlie Newman capt., William Gwynn
William Gwynn (1856 - 1 April 1897) was a Welsh international rugby union forward who played club rugby for Swansea and would later become secretary of the Welsh Rugby Union. Gwynn was an all-round sportsman and as well as his success on the rug ...
, Willie Thomas
William Henry Thomas (22 March 1866 – 11 October 1921) was a Welsh international rugby union player who played club rugby for Llanelli and London Welsh. He was capped eleven times for Wales and captained the team on two occasions. In 1888, ...
, Edward Alexander, Frank Hill
Frank Robert Hill (21 May 1906 – 28 August 1993) was a Scottish association football, football player and manager.
Playing career
Forfar and Aberdeen
Hill was born in Forfar and started his career at Forfar Athletic F.C., Forfar Athletic, jo ...
, Tom Clapp
Tom Clapp (25 October 1858 – 15 October 1933) was an English-born international rugby union forward who played club rugby for Newport and Nantyglo RFC. He won 14 caps for Wales and captained the team on three occasions. Clapp was the first ...
, Bob Gould, D Morgan, Thomas Baker-Jones, Samuel Goldsworthy, Lewis Thomas
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Thomas was born in Flushing, New York and attended Princeton University ...
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England vs. Ireland
England: CH Sample (Cambridge University
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, other_name = The Chancellor, Masters and Schola ...
), WN Bolton (Blackheath Blackheath may refer to:
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*Blackheath, London, England
** Blackheath railway station
**Hundred of Blackheath, Kent, an ancient hundred in the north west of the county of Kent, England
*Blackheath, Surrey, England
** Hundred of Blackh ...
), Andrew Stoddart
Andrew Ernest Stoddart (11 March 1863 – 4 April 1915) was an English sportsman who played international cricket for England, and rugby union for England and the British Isles. He was a Wisden Cricketer of the Year in 1893.
He has the unique ...
(Blackheath Blackheath may refer to:
Places England
*Blackheath, London, England
** Blackheath railway station
**Hundred of Blackheath, Kent, an ancient hundred in the north west of the county of Kent, England
*Blackheath, Surrey, England
** Hundred of Blackh ...
), JJ Hawcridge (Bradford
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), A Rotherham (Oxford University
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), JH Payne ( Broughton), Frank Moss
Frank Edward "Ted" Moss (September 23, 1911 – January 29, 2003) was an American lawyer and politician. A Democrat, he served as a United States Senator from Utah from 1959 to 1977.
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Frank Moss was born in Holladay ...
( Broughton), G Harrison ( Hull), AT Kemble (Liverpool
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), Charles Gurdon
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(Richmond
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), HJ Ryalls ( New Brighton), CH Horley ( Swinton), CS Wooldridge (Blackheath Blackheath may refer to:
Places England
*Blackheath, London, England
** Blackheath railway station
**Hundred of Blackheath, Kent, an ancient hundred in the north west of the county of Kent, England
*Blackheath, Surrey, England
** Hundred of Blackh ...
), GT Thomson ( Halifax), ET Gurdon (Richmond
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* Richmond, Virginia, the capital of Virginia, United States
* Richmond, London, a part of London
* Richmond, North Yorkshire, a town in England
* Richmond, British Columbia, a city in Canada
* Richmond, California, ...
) capt.
Ireland: GH Wheeler (Queen's College, Belfast), EH Greene ( Dublin Uni.), JP Ross (Lansdowne Lansdowne or Lansdown may refer to:
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), RG Warren (Lansdowne Lansdowne or Lansdown may refer to:
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* Lansdown Guilding (1797–1831), Saint Vincent and the Grenadines naturalist and engraver
*Fenwick Lansdowne (1937–2008), Canadian wildlife artist
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), RE McLean ( NIFC), EC Crawford ( Dublin Uni.), THM Hobbs ( Dublin Uni.), Thomas Lyle ( Dublin Uni.), FW Moore ( Wanderers), T Shanahan (Lansdowne Lansdowne or Lansdown may refer to:
People
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), RM Bradshaw ( Wanderers), TC Allen ( NIFC), HJ Neill ( NIFC), RW Hughes ( NIFC), WG Rutherford (Lansdowne Lansdowne or Lansdown may refer to:
People
* Lansdown Guilding (1797–1831), Saint Vincent and the Grenadines naturalist and engraver
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* George Granville, 1st Baron Lansdowne (1666–1735) ...
) capt.
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Scotland vs. Ireland
Source:
Gardyne Maitland
Gardyne Maitland (7 December 1865 – 13 February 1907) was a Scotland international rugby union player.Bath, p137
Rugby Union career
Amateur career
He played for Edinburgh Institution F.P.
Provincial career
He played for East of Scotland ...
, ARD (Bunny) Wauchope, Patrick Wauchope, Tom Ainslie, John Brown, John Jamieson
John Jamieson (3 March 1759 – 12 July 1838) was a Scottish minister of religion, lexicographer, philologist and antiquary. His most important work is the ''Dictionary of the Scottish Language''.
Life
He was born in Glasgow in March 1759 the ...
, Walter Irvine, William Peterkin, Charlie Reid, Jack Tait, John Tod, Gordon Mitchell
Ireland: Robert Morrow, Ernest Greene, John Ross, Robert Warren, Daniel Ross, D.V. Hunter, J.A. Thompson, Thomas Lyle, Frederick Moore, Thomas Shanahan, Robert Bradshaw, Arthur Forrest (capt), Harry Neill, Jack Johnston, William Hogg
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